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After the metric ton of whining about "maintaining frith" that has been a deluge from the Folkish camps for the last couple years, an oath to maintain frith is met with "But muh Folkish!"Not quite right, on several levels, Carl.
Also, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of "tolerance" that plays well in memes, but doesn't fit reality. See here: https://extranewsfeed.com/tolerance-is-not-a-moral-precept-1af7007d6376#.itrbml79z
First off, the use of the word "frith" is incorrect. Fortunately, the Troth fixed their statement upon having that (somewhat embarrassingly) pointed out to them. So let's move past your first point, because it's not relevant and never was. They don't want frith (or whatever they want to call it) with people who don't agree with them; they want people who disagree with them to shut up and leave.
But as for "tolerance," I'm not the one who ever claimed to be a champion of tolerance, or who ever asked for it from you Norse Neopagans, for that matter. It's always people like you, and the Troth, who go spouting off how "tolerant" they are. So let's take that one off the table too, because you're just making it up.
That leaves us with your link, which is very interesting and appreciated, because it makes my point brilliantly. The whole argument in that article you link to is that tolerance does not extend to tolerating physical violence:
"If one side has breached another’s rights, the injured party is no longer bound to respect the treaty rights of their assailant — and their response is not an identical violation of the rules, even if it looks superficially similar to the original breach."But what "right" is being injured by the fact that Folkish Asatruar** say they only want to worship with people who agree with the premise that "people should worship the gods of their ancestors?"
I mean, it's not like we folkish go around trying to disrupt Norse Neopagan groups, or gatherings, or rituals, or meetings, or whatever. We don't break up Troth blots that happen to have a black or hispanic present, saying "THIS SHALL NOT STAND!" We don't do any of that. We don't care what you do.
No, all we say is "we want to blot with people who think the same way we do." You know, folkish people.
How, exactly, is that harassment? How does that threaten anyone's safety, or their freedom to worship whatever they want to worship? How does my thinking "gee, that guy's pretty silly for wanting to worship my ancestors," or "you go worship with those Trothers over there, but please let me worship over here with my own folk" harm anyone?
|He thinks this is literally the same as saying "we don't want|
you in our ritual; go do ritual with those guys over there."
Is your moral compass so twisted, is your world view so ingrained with the lie that "folkish = racist = genocidal maniac" that you can't see that wanting to worship with people who believe as you do is NOT the same as wanting to kill all those people with whom you disagree?
Do you not realize that it is precisely the people on *your* side of the argument that want to do those things to people with whom *you* disagree that you you accuse us of wanting to do? As far as I know, no folkish group has ever tried to disrupt a Norse Neopagan gathering, never tried to get a venue to turn them away, never tried to doxx their members, physically intimidate them, or anything else of the sort.
But your side has.
It's not saying "you can't worship the Aesir." It's saying "you can't worship the Aesir with us." Can you even see the difference?
If you think that not being invited to an AFA event is somehow preventing anyone from worshiping Odin and Thor, you're just deluded. We just think they're wrong, and don't want them around (and news flash; "them" includes "you;" it's about what you believe, not what you are). Folkish = okay, uni = not okay.
* Trump Derangement Syndrome
** The only real Asatruar out there, and the original type in America, but that's something I covered a while ago elsewhere on the blog. Oh, no! Maybe my saying they're not really Asatruar is somehow psychically preventing from calling themselves that! Gods, what power the SJW's give over us.