Friday, April 15, 2016

What to do About the Hordes

As far as I can determine, "Thorfinn Skullsplitter" (the guy
with the hammer) has dropped off the face of the earth.
To hear some universalists (and other non-Heathen busybodies) talk about it, there is a veritable tsunami of Nigerians, Egyptians, Chinese, Japanese, Arabs, Polynesians, Inuit, Tutsis, Patángoro, and legions of other non-Europeans, banging down the gates, wanting to be Asatru and worship the gods of my ancestors who are my ancestors for some reason.

What are we supposed to do with these spiritually hungry hordes, we are asked insistently? Don't the Gods call whom they will? Who are we to say they can't pour a libation of mead on the ground in honor of Odin if they want to?

I overstate the case to the point of absurdity, of course, but I do so to make a point. The number of people with no European ancestry (which I'm just going to shortcut as "non-whites", because it's a tedious mouthful otherwise) wanting to be Asatru is minuscule. The number of such people who stay Asatru for more than ten years can probably be counted on one hand, if that.

The numbers of such people with some, but not a majority, of European ancestry is doubtless larger, but not very. From my (admittedly completely subjective) experience, such people are either more interested in making a political statement ("you can't tell me what I can't do!") or just think Vikings are cool, and wander off when they've made their point, or when they realize their fellow kindred members are really serious.

If I'm correct (and I really think I am) and the number of non-Europeans beating down the doors trying to get into the rhetorical hall that is Asatru is vanishingly small, it certainly points up the fact that the whole folkish / universalist debate is wildly overblown. I would be willing to wager that if a given Asatru group didn't have a policy about folkishness one way or the other, it wouldn't even come up for years, if ever. But many (especially on the anti- side) like to make grand political pronouncements on the subject, and that tends to attract those who are looking to make a political statement, and then move on for their next attention-grab.

So, point the first, the whole debate is more about posturing and being Politically Correct than having to accommodate hordes of non-whites. It's pretty much a non-issue. It wasn't even an issue in the earliest days of Asatru; what we call "folkish" today was just the default position.

That said, it cannot be denied that at least some people of non-majority-European descent want to call themselves Asatru, and worship the Gods.

So what should we, as folkish Heathens, do about it? What can we do about it?

The answer is absolutely nothing, to both questions.

This wouldn't be nearly so troublesome if they didn't
define "fascist" as "anyone who disagrees with me".
It really comes down to a question of practicality. We couldn't stop them if we wanted to. Are we going to bust up some uni ceremony because they have a black godi? Are we really the sort of people who go around picketing other groups' meetings because they're doing something we don't like? Are we really the sort of people who disrupt SJW conferences, pull fire alarms, and generally try to prevent people with whom we disagree from speaking? Do we engage in "de-platforming"? Do we try to ruin their lives, get them fired from jobs, or doxx them? Of course not.

That's what they do. They're the totalitarians, they're the ones who can't stand the very idea that there are people out there who don't agree with them. They attack those with whom they disagree, and attempt to disenfranchise and delegitimize us. They're the ones whose ideology is so fragile that the mere existence of people who don't believe what they believe is intolerable, because it implies that they could, just possibly, be wrong, and they just can't accept that. Better to destroy the reminder than to accept the possibility.

All we want is to be left alone. Let us do what we want to do with whom we want to do it. At best, we'll encourage others to find the faith of their ancestors (how horrible!). Other than that, we really don't care what you do, as long as you don't try to force yourself and your beliefs upon us. Take our advice or don't. Just don't think you have some free pass to dictate to us how we should live our faith.

But even beyond the practical matters, why would we even want to? Literally, what's the worst-case scenario? Let's say some Hottentot pours out a horn of mead to Thor. Is Thor going to go around smiting us because of it? Of course not*. Hasn't happened yet, and there's no indication that it'll start happening any time soon. Worst case, Thor is going to ignore it and the Hottentot in question looks foolish. Best case (for said Hottentot); Thor'll accept it, and we'll never know. So what? The gods' acceptance of someone else's offering has nothing to do with whether they will or will not accept my own.

If "Hottentots" is good enough for Opus, it's good enough for me.
The one thing that our enemies have never understood is that the folkish point of view is not, and for all practical purposes cannot, be that non-Europeans can't worship Odin. We couldn't stop them if we wanted to. The folkish position is that all peoples should be free to practice the original faith of their ancestors, before the coming of the Abrahamic monotheists.

There are people who don't agree with that position, and that's fine. They're more than free to get together, and make their blots, and have their inclusive paradise. All we ask is that they give us the same courtesy; let us determine with whom we wish to worship and associate. Freedom of association, especially when it comes to religion, must be paramount in any free society. They choose to associate with anyone who comes in. That's their choice. We choose to associate with people who have some degree of European ancestry (the specifics varying by group and individual). That's central to our religious belief, and ultimately it doesn't hurt anyone to say, "if you won't honor the gods of your own ancestors, please honor the gods of my ancestors with those people over there, who are happy to have you."

Point the second; when it comes down to it, both sides are asking exactly the same thing. The only difference is that the universalists and SJW's don't think we should even be allowed to make the request:

"Let us worship with people who believe as we do."


*  If so, that holds its own theological implications. However, to my knowledge, the gods have not communicated any displeasure with the folkish point of view, at least to someone who doesn't coincidentally have a political ax to grind. Indeed, the "luck of the folkish" seems to be quite strong at the moment, which is a pretty sure and objective indicator of their favor.


  1. Regarding the caption of your first photo here: Thorfinn has changed his Nom du Net. He is still very much a part of the SoCal Heathen community.

  2. skullsplitter? [sorry I refuse to capitalize the s] WOW marveltru at it's very finest lol

  3. Thorfinn Skullsplitter was the name of a character in Erik the Viking